09.24.2012 A taste of Fall & A Video

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Fish Report 9/23/12 <o:p></o:p>

Still Summer <o:p></o:p>

A Taste Of Fall <o:p></o:p>

Video <o:p></o:p>


Summer Fishing of Flounder & Black Sea Bass continues. I don't think fishing will change significantly until we've had a heavy NE wind or worse. We're still targeting flounder over precisely the same reefs & wrecks where I've spent a lifetime targeting sea bass---except when sea bass bite better at those reefs which is happening more frequently but not predictably.. Sea Bass are absolutely fattening up for winter -- plump. We've seen signs of a fall bite a few times. <o:p></o:p>

Usually sending participating anglers home with several dinners.<o:p></o:p>

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2,757 Oyster Castle Reef Blocks By The Rail. <o:p></o:p>


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Here's Capt. Ted Green's latest u/w video from a pair of barges we sank over a decade ago; one of 3 locations targeted by MD's scuba community for u/w reef construction with oyster castle reef blocks.

(select, copy, then paste into the address block in your web browser) <o:p></o:p>

Though well-grown in, I believe additional complexity (460 blocks & counting) will increase fishery production; That even good reef can be made better. <o:p></o:p>

I also believe the flat horizontal expanses of these barges closely mimic our original sea bed; that here is what large areas of bottom looked like before industrial stern towed fishing gears were used; That here is what the nearshore Mid-Atlantic looked like in many multi-square mile areas of sea whip meadow before men discovered how to fill train cars & tractor trailers with fish & shellfish. <o:p></o:p>

As evidenced by commercial sea bass landings of the 1950s being greater than all decades since combined, all sea bass weighed and sold by the pound--recorded; as evidenced by stories told to me of picking through piles of sea whip on deck to find fish: Where overfishing of today's remnant reef-fish populations has been poorly remedied by ill-found catch restriction, to truly restore those earliest reef-fish populations we must also restore that period's reef habitat footprint. <o:p></o:p>

If we can do that, and we will, then there's no reason at all we can not engineer far higher populations. <o:p></o:p>

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Will need another truckload of blocks soon.. <o:p></o:p>

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It is entirely possible that no one involved with fishery management believes those Mar/Apr NJ shore tautog estimates from 2010. <o:p></o:p>

But those data, and every set like it, are still used by management as though a bank statement; Here's How Much You Took Out, Here's How Much You Can Take Out Next Year---The Precise Catch Estimate Is Used In Plug & Play Formula. <o:p></o:p>

MRIP needs to -and should- estimate a more precise number; Management needs to -and should- have far more leeway in the estimates. <o:p></o:p>

Instead, here come Accountability Measures & Annual Catch Limits.. <o:p></o:p>

Both written into the Bush era's Magnuson rewrite and supposed to came AFTER recreational data was improved; Soon recreational fishers will be held accountable for any statistical hallucination conjured on computer screen: Its certainly possible that an entire fishery could be closed for 'over-fishing' that never occurred -- its already happening, month by month, in sea bass. <o:p></o:p>

Below you'll find a section from a fish report about MRIP. Those active in the fisheries need to ask (or re-ask) MRIP's outreach coordinator, their State Fisheries leaders & Washington representatives how recreational data can be so much worse in the 'new & improved' recreational catch estimating program and if it will be the source of Accountability Measures. <o:p></o:p>

Adherence to delusional data is destroying the human side of fisheries while not doing a whole lot for fish. <o:p></o:p>

Needs to get fixed. <o:p></o:p>


Monty <o:p></o:p>


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From 8/11/12 Report: <o:p></o:p>

Forbes Darby keeps asking if anyone has questions about the ne MRIP program. <o:p></o:p>

If you're curious, email him -- It's OK, this is his job. <o:p></o:p>

Personally, I haven't gotten an answer.<o:p></o:p>


MRFSS = old recreational catch estimating system; Marine Recreational Fishing Statistics Survey. (we say Murfs - they say MurFis) <o:p></o:p>

MRIP = new system mandated by congress by 2009, Marine Recreational Information Program. (not Murfs Rest In Peace) <o:p></o:p>

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NOAA claims to be on-path to fulfilling its Congressional requirement to improve recreational fishery data by 2009. <o:p></o:p>

MRIP is now "Statistically Rigorous" they say. <o:p></o:p>

"They" are, almost every one, people I know & trust; but somewhere there's a bug in the system that needs to come out. <o:p></o:p>

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I have many questions about the validity of MRIP's newly revised catch estimates - below is a single example. There are many, many more examples in every species I target.<o:p></o:p>

The old MuRFSS estimate for March and April 2010 for New Jersey's shore-bound tautog fishermen was 71,000 tog boxed-up and taken home in those two cold-water months. This value, fantastically above the mean for New Jersey's shore fishery, represents more jetty & pier fish than all US for-hire party/charter boats caught from 2004 to present in all waters during the same cold-water wave period. <o:p></o:p>

Its a very unlikely estimate; but an estimate that contributed to new, tighter regulations nonetheless. <o:p></o:p>

The new MRIP model now has these same fellows fishing along New Jersey's jetties & piers; These same fishers who never-ever caught what NJ's For-Hire boats alone will catch, nevermind what ALL US party/charter boats landed -- these fishers are now said to have caught 173,092 under MRIP. That's One Hundred Thousand more tautog in March & April, 2010 than even MuRFSS gigantic error. <o:p></o:p>

So, Under The New & Improved MRIP Model NOAA's Catch Assertion Now Reads Thusly: New Jersey Jetty Fishers Caught More Tautog In Late Winter/Early Spring 2010 Than ALL For-Hire Party/Charter Fishers Put Together In March/April PLUS What All US Commercial Effort Landed All Year -- BY A WIDE MARGIN! <o:p></o:p>

Statistical Validity Indeed.. <o:p></o:p>

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MRIP, like MRFSS before, can assert any amount of catch and turn it into Recreational Overfishing with always-subsequent greater catch restriction. <o:p></o:p>

MRIP Team: Where's the head-count? Where are the statistical stops to prevent wild flyers in the data? <o:p></o:p>

Please don't tell us you actually believe NJ shore fishers caught incredibly more tautog in two months than all our commercial fishers caught all year..

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I know its an election year and they're all very busy; maybe your Congressional Representative & State Senators have staff that handle fisheries issues. <o:p></o:p>

Ask them why reef plays no part in any reef-fish management plan too. <o:p></o:p>

Ask them how Accountability Measures can be employed using catch data with no accountability.. <o:p></o:p>

Ask them why the new and improved data is sometimes much worse..<o:p></o:p>


Monty <o:p></o:p>



Capt. Monty Hawkins

Party Boat "Morning Star"

Reservation Line 410 520 2076<o:p></o:p>

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