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Since I'm planning on trying this sharking thing casting from shore at the shark get together - I went ahead and ordered some supplies (malin wire, crimping tool, etc) - I also got some hooks.....But I didn't realize how small the Mustad hooks were compared to the same size Owner and Gama's(which are not that far apart)

I got some Mustad 39965D size 12/0 - they're smaller than my Owner 9/0's! Anyone familiar with these hooks and casting for sharks - should I return them and get some 16/0's???? Advice?

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Yes they are small,,,size is really dependent on manufacturer,,,a 12 is not the same as a 12 from another manufacturer,,,and even the same manufacturer may differ in size as well even tho they are still calling both hooks twelves, just a different style hook,,,if you plan on using circles, the demon 12's by mustad are pretty large or just get the 16's of the same style hook you bought,,,here is a link to 2 mustad charts,,,one is circle demon variety (must sharpen before use), the other is tuna circle variety.

circle demon

http://www.mustad.no/catalog/product.php?id=49

tuna circle (39965D)

http://www.mustad.no/catalog/product.php?id=1007

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ok - cool I'll see if I can get to bass pro and exchange - the style is ok then if I go with 16?

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Somebody here has a link to size comparisons by manufacturer, I (oops) didn't bookmark it.

Yeah, it's ok to go to 16/0. I searched on BP for the number you gave and came up blank. Are they circles?

For circles you can open the gap a bit. Some of the folks solely use circles at night because the Sand Tigers are very active and tend to get gut hooked on a J-hook. I use a 12-16/0 J's during the day.

You may want to call BP to see if they have anything that big, I know my "local" one doesn't keep the big stuff in stock. Which one are you going to?

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Yes these are circles. I ordered them online. My closest BPS is harrisburg, so that's the one i'd be exchanging at - I guess I'll call first to see what they have...

I think I'll ask what they have in circle hooks that size - if it sounds promising, I'll just go and look in person....really a pain to do online..

You know - in fly fishing, a size 24 is pretty much a 24 and a 18 is pretty much an 18 - needs to be some standard with these circle hooks!

Anyway - thanks for the info - yeah I heard about opening up the gap - plannned on doing that, but first I have to start with a big enough hook :)

I have until July 28th - i'll get my #)$# together by then...

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We'll be waiting for you on the 28th!!

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steve- i was going to go to the BPS in Anne Arundel ...is that the one you go to- do they have big hooks??

WEll if they dont have the big ones in stock i'll just order them online...let me know

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...

EDITED - cause I completely misunderstood which Steve ben was talking to (DOH!)

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That would be the one with steve as an online name... :lol::lol::D

Ben, Arundel Mills generally has crap for hooks. The biggest I have seen there is a Mustad Sea Demon J-hook in 12/0. However, I do use those during the day. In a perfect world, or someplace where you can easily buy them, I would like 16/0 J's and Circles.

Arundel just isn't set up for Charkin. You would have better results going to a B&T near the shore. Of course, you can also buy them online from quite a few places. But ya better know the brands and size differences within the same stated size, they DO vary between manufacturers.

ie, a 12/0 Mustad is not the same size as a 12/0 Eagle Claw or whomever....

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yeah everyone always seems to talk about mustad....so i htink i will buy some 16/0 mustad circles off BPS.com

but are stainless the ony way to go???...cause they are a ton more expensive...i think the ones i was planning to get a bunch of were duratin or something

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yep the ones I got were the duratin - only i screwed up and ordered the 12/0 instead of the 16/0.

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Grrr, forgot to put it in, yes, Duratin is fine.

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Ok - UPDATE: I had some time to get to cabelas today (had to replace my baitrunner that got mangled in the car accident....)

So I picked up some hooks - biggest circles I could find were Penn/Eagle Claw Super Chunk 15/0 They seem ok for casting size baits...anyone try these?

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they should be fine, only thing is to try and open them just a little.

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Put them in a vise and wasn't able to easily open or offset them - these things are strong! Maybe I needed to heat them first? Anway - I made up 10 rigs. Hopefully I won't go through them all....have to check with Bev to see what they have instock in case these hooks don't work and I need emergency replacements :)

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if you lose 5 of them you need to borrow someone elses rig or we'll have to start casting in the wash cause that's where the ST's are cruising.

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Sometimes I'm think - so you mean to say that I should be safe with 10... And if i lose that many something is really wrong with my setup eh?

Just something about sharks and 17lb test that makes me nervous lol

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any fish can be landed on any line provided enough patience, line, and an excellent drag. Baitrunners are pretty good, you should be fine. I wouldn't put anything over the bar, you need enough line to hold off a 150-200 yard run at least.

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I just spoiled 300 yards of 40lb test on a alpha reel. You could go to a braid line with heavier test and get more line on your reel.

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Charkbait - yep - i figured it'd be a challenge, but a doable challenge - and I'm not planning on putting baits way out - just casting ...

Hoax - i considered braid and was advised to stick with the 17lb as it is cheaper and won't get cut by the sharks swimming around with their mouths open....but i know there are different opinions on it...

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just remember to let em run when they want to and "pump em up slowly and reel it down"!

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just remember to let em run when they want to and "pump em up slowly and reel it down"!

Bada-BING!

Yep, let 'em take the line, especially if it's light like the 17.

But....

I do believe we'll have a few folks get spooled (or broke off) on the 28th....

Bring spare reels/spools.

Spools: Ones that fit your reel or a store bought spool of fresh line.

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Don't have any spare spools, but have spare line. Bringing 1600 yards or so of extra 17lb...

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