Charlie Daniels on Illegal Immigration

[chomper]

I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I
think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally,
made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don't blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the
United States of America, as it is a truly wonderful place.

But when the first thing you do is set foot illegally on American soil, it is flat out wrong and I don't care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons.

I don't need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don't have any-thing against Mexicans! I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don't believe it, try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get. What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it's tanta-mount to saying, "I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there's nothing you can do about it."

It's an "in your face" action and speaking just for me, I don't like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn't be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lily livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again?
And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won't mean anything anyway Besides, what good is another law going to do when you won't enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls, guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain't paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want some thing done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can't happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grand-children will inherit. But I guess that doesn't matter as long as you get re-elected.
Shame on you.
One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you

Well I've been pounded by the media before and I'm still rockin' and rollin' and when it comes to speaking the truth I fear not.
And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the United States of America because they don't have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to face reality.

And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have 12 million illegal in this country and turn around and say, "Oh it's ok, ya'll can stay here if you'll just allow us to slap your wrist."

And I know that some of you who read this column are saying "Well what's wrong with that?"
I'll tell you what's wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far as we know. We don't know who they are, where they are or what they're up to and the way the Congress is going we're not going to.

Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well?
If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan ?
I think not.

All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have crossed the border just to try to better their life.
They don't show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did. They don't tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican illegal some fat cat hired to pick his crop.

I want to make two predictions.

No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre.

No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.


I don't know about you but I would love to see just one major politician stand up and say, "I don't care who I make mad and I don't care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I'm going to lead the fight to get it straightened out."
I don't blame anybody for wanting to come to America , but if you don't respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others?
And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and stripes Please get that other one out of my face.

God Bless America

Charlie Daniels

This was sent to me and I just had to post it.

Ron Paul is a conservative constitutionalist and should get the nod from the GOP. He has a real immigration plan too. Check out his stance on the issues.

Issues

[Randy Stinchcomb]

well said and I concur

[happy2fish]

Oh my goodness, if I might just add that if some of the lazy Americans, that could work and don't, would get off their lazy duffs and busy doing some of the jobs the illegals are doing (instead of standing in the welfare line with their hand out) we would all have to work less to pay so many taxes and could spend more time fishing!

[F117A]

Originally Posted by happy2fish

if some of the lazy Americans, that could work and don't, would get off their lazy duffs and busy doing some of the jobs the illegals are doing (instead of standing in the welfare line with their hand out)

Agreed. I know people who could certainly do some type of productive work, but do not...preferring to spend years battling to claim some sort of spurious "disability" that will allow them to live on a subsistence income, but never having to work again. Or that know how to play the welfare system game.

That said, the new "five year lifetime limit" on welfare, is pushing more and more people off the welfare rolls, and (sometimes) unwillingly into the job market. Most of these people, the majority women, have few or no marketable job skills, and therefore their "market value" is co-orespondingly low. So they earn minimum wage, or close to it.

Unfortunately, since the minimum wage does not approach a "living wage" in most if not all areas, these are jobs which will not lift the worker out of poverty. And in many cases, the reality is that the net paycheck is not sufficient to allow the person to keep food on the table, maintain their health, and live indoors, which the welfare benefits package is designed to cover, albeit minimally. It can mean a significant cut in an already meagre income, to take a near minimum wage job, once the cost of transportation and possibly childcare is factored in.

I do not mean this to justify handing out welfare benefits to otherwise healthy people who are capable of doing some form of productive work, whether it is Walmart greeter, fluffer, or ditch digger. I believe that work is a moral and ethical imperative, one which has been "bred out" of some families who've relied on the dole for generations, raising kids who do not know the tradition and personal responsibility of work.

However, the laws of supply and demand apply univerally; and as such, they apply to the job market as well. An oversupply of "unskilled" labor, leads to a consequent decline in the market value of the work performed, and the wage rates bottom out. The release of thousands of former welfare recipients into the job market, expecting to find work that allows them to continue their current already very low, subsistence standard of living, would be absorbable by our industries for the most part. But these jobs are often already taken by the exploding (illegal) immigrant population, who are willing to work for cash under the table, for less than minimum wage, in sometimes horrific conditions, and dare not complain.

So if they are lucky enough to find work, the overabundance of applicants has ensured that the wages paid will be extremely low. That's the effect of an oversupply of labor in a given stratum; it depresses the wage rates, since so many are competing for so few jobs. Big bonus for employers, especially large ones who rely on an endless supply of warm bodies to perform unskilled, dangerous work.

It's a tired cliche', that the Hispanics, Mexicans et al, do "work that ordinary Americans won't do."

50 years ago, who did this work? We did. And we did not need "guest workers" to mow our lawns, clean our hotel rooms, wash our dishes, or pick our crops. We hired Americans.

And those Americans who performed that work, raised children who grew up with the work ethic and understanding of their place in the world, and why they had to make their contribution as had others before them.

Now, with the overwhelming immigrant populations taking those jobs, and our overly broad welfare system handing out a free living to those who would've otherwise picked up a broom and earned a day's pay, we're now seeing families, generations even, who are learning the "life of leisure" rather than the expectation of work, sweat, and the aggravation of missing soap operas for the 9 to 5 grind. So, in my opinion, the enormous immigration problem is yet another factor in the decline of the work ethic and personal sense of responsibility so prevalent in some areas.

During my recent road trip to Maine, I was amazed to discover that Americans would indeed clean my hotel room, and wash the dishes at the restaurants I stopped at. And along the roadside, on the journey, I witnessed job site after job site, with non-Mexicans laying brick, hoisting wooden frames to build houses, picking up trash alongside the roads, washing cars, doing farmwork, and any other job you can think of. There was a job, there was an American to do that job. Perhaps, although I have no way of knowing for certain, those Americans were earning more than minimum wage; perhaps a living wage, that allowed them to pay the rent and eat regularly.

What I didn't see, were a lot of boarded up factories and businesses, who went under because they didn't get to use cheap immigrant labor. Looked pretty prosperous, in a kaleidoscopic swathe of the American economy as viewed from a meandering roadside.

With the illegal immigrants removed, and a much smaller labor pool, wages will of course rise in a laissez-faire economy. This naturally tends to lift the wage scale acrossboard, but removes the artificial depression of the oversupplied unskilled labor pool. Once the labor market has equalized, which will of course take a few business cycles, we can get back to a healthy rate of growth and building of prosperity as a nation once again.

Allowing external factors such as illegal aliens to interfere with the natural fluctuations of free market variables such as labor and wage rates, is an unsustainable and ultimately catastrophic course; and I think we are just beginning to see and feel the rumblings of economic collapse.

[Steve]

Hmmmm...
I think I have read that somewhere before.....
Looks strangely familiar.

[F117A]

Originally Posted by Steve

Hmmmm...
I think I have read that somewhere before.....
Looks strangely familiar.

Must've read my mind, then.

[Steve]

There was a similar writing by a Princeton Professor about the influx of German and Italian immigrants in the 1920's. He wrote of the impact on the Longshoremen taking pay cuts and eventually being cut out of a job because of the immigrants that would work for far less. This of course has a ripple effect on the merchants the Longshoremen bought their groceries from, the pubs, everything right down the line. We're talking about thousands of workers in a relatively small geographic area.

I see ICE all the time in my area, constantly picking up illegals.
They took my neighbor and two doors down took 12 of 'em out.
The same thing keeps repeating itself, now it's the folks from the warmer side of the border.

Still reading your mind?

[F117A]

Originally Posted by Steve

Still reading your mind?

No, not at all. I hadn't read that particular study, but it is quite relevent in context of the predictable results of an oversupply of labor in a previously stable and healthy economy, without the accompanying and compensatory effects of overall growth.

I had misinterpreted your response to mean you had read my actual writing previously, which would only be possible if you'd read my mind. In actuality, it seems you meant that the points made were remniscent of another period in history, and therefore predictive of what's to be expected in a similar situation...history repeating itself.

The difference, however, is the immigrant population you mentioned, wanted very much to assimilate into this country, and did so by learning English and adopting our customs and traditions while adding their own to our culture, enriching both. Far too many of today's immigrants would rather try to live the Mexican/Hispanic lifestyle with its norms and standards, arrogantly rejecting American culture and values, while contemptuously expecting Americans to shut up and "embrace diversity".

A divided society is trouble in the making. We've seen that time and time again, one group demanding, threatening, the other, capitulating until the absurdity of political correctness reigns over common sense.

In my opinion, be legal, be eager to learn English, assimilate, be American, and be welcomed. Or go back where you came from, and take your anchor babies with you.

[happy2fish]

Why do politicians make it so complicated? It is real simple:

1. Laziness = sin
2. Selfishness = sin
3. Lying = sin

Otherwise -
1. Lazy Americans, get to work (no taxpayer money for those that could and should work),

2. Selfish Americans, don't take what is not rightfully yours (benefits intended for the truly needy) and

3. American wannabes, quit lying to continue to do what you are doing (go the legal route).

Of course that would mean a lot of politicians would also have to live up to 1,2 & 3.

Wait a minute... maybe the first ten laws were enough and lawyers and politicians made amendments to cover the most important of laws, Love the Lord and treat others as you wish to be treated!

Uh Oh, maybe that would be confusing church and state separation.... We had better keep our children from learning about the "Big Ten" so they can live by man's laws and let the lawyers and politicians tell them what is best for our country...

Isn't it great that Jesus knew your heart and said "get into the boat and cast your net"

Try to keep the "Big Ten" and... go fishing...