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01-11-2008, 10:48 AM
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Striper beach netting in North Carolina!
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01-11-2008, 06:11 PM
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I guess that pretty much wraps up the season for Outer Banks.
So all you folks that were planning to contribute to the local economy at Outer Banks, go elsewhere, the Stripers are gone. Take the money you were going to give to the small motel owner, the local bait shop, the mom & pop grocer and pocket it. All that money I WOULD HAVE spent there for one or two fish..... Perhaps call them up and tell 'em why you won't be contributing to their winter funds. All because a bunch of greedy so-and-so's decided to rape the water and strip mine the Stripers. The State of North Carolina needs to be caned for allowing such a thing to occur. "Ask for local seafood" my behind, I wouldn't give those restaurants that take that meat one dime. Ya wonder how many THOUSANDS of fish they took. This was just a tiny clip of THREE DAYS!!!! Or... Am I missing a logical reason here? Yeah, and this is a toned down version of what I was thinking.... *Thread being moved at the request of Jamie*
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01-11-2008, 07:19 PM
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Hey Steve - stop movin threads on me while i'm tryin to reply! lol j/k
Its hard to believe that's legal!!!  We have people on this board who fish for 100 hours, catch one nice striper and release it unharmed. Then this guy does this??????
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01-11-2008, 10:46 PM
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Why ?????????????????????????????????????????????
Why is that legal? That is the most insane thing this boy has ever seen. And I have seen a pile of insanity in 41 years. Now, that is the kind of crap the tree and beach huggers should be complaining about down there. And in Corolla , ???
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01-12-2008, 12:00 AM
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They pretty much ruined the whole surf run of the striper there so they could get the money for robbing the water of striper!!!! I thought that a law or something was passed so that you could overfish the waters like they just did.
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01-12-2008, 12:41 PM
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heres the deal. the fish taken commercially are just a FRACTION of what is taken by recreational fisherman. here are some numbers for you. in 2006 (2007 statistics aren't published yet) the North Carolina commercial striper harvest was 270,932 pounds. that same year the estimated recreational harvest was 2,112,024 pounds! about 9 times as much as commercial. it is the recreational fishermen who are the doom for the fish. the fish are just too stupid and taste too good. I think they should cut the recreational limit in half, and still they would take more than the commercial guys. just remember any fish you buy in a store, market, or restaurant is caught commercially. no matter how much you bitch about commercial fishing, whenever you buy those crabs or striped bass or eat that flounder dish at your favorite restaurant, you are supporting the commercial fishermen.
the season isn't over, it has just begun
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01-13-2008, 12:05 PM
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I hear you, Really I do, But.....
I have no problems with the commercial fishing industry for the most part. But that operation that the guy has going on there I would believe has to be breaking commercial fishing laws. The biggest thing I see is this, and it dovetails on the subject on another post about Cool Ice's problem. And it is this; in that video, it does not appear that the "fisherman" is checking the sizes of his fish as they are dragged onto the sand. How often is this guy stopping to check the net and releasing the small ones or out of slot ones? It appears that he is pulling the net in continuously with no regard for the sizes of the fish that might still be alive but too big or small to keep. By the time he does check them, are they still able to be released? I would think this part of the operation on a boat would be dealt with as the haul is brought aboard, and the illegal ones would be put back in before they croak. And , as recreational fisherman, those are the some of the fish that will help us be able to have a recreational event in the years to come. I am going to Nags Head in June for a week, and I see this event as a "buzz kill" to my fishing buzz before I even get it started!
Alright I am done. Peace out and Happy Fishing to everyone! Grossy
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01-13-2008, 03:11 PM
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he may not have checked for undersized fish but then again he may have, you just can't tell from the video. there is no slot limit to adhere to. the fish just have to be over 28" which most are this time of year. in the ocean they are pretty much all BIG fish, averaging 25-30 lbs. each. I don't think the recreational estimate is right, but I don't think it is too far off either. It is almost impossible to do an estimate since every year the variables are different but I think everyone underestimates the recs. I have personally seen EVERY charter boat booked in OI with trailers lined up for a mile and a half up to the fishing center with the parking lot full of trailers, plus the boats at the other marinas and fishing centers around there I would guess that there was probably around 150 recreational boats fishing that day. almost everyone got there limit. 2 fish per person doesn't sound like a lot but 25 pound average, 2 fish per person, maybe 5 person average on boat, roughly 150 boats = around 37,500 pounds... in one day! not counting the boats that had their limit came in and went back out, and not counting the boats from VA that cam south that day, nor does that count the fish taken off the beach. that was just a quick little estimate for one day a few years ago. I wish I could pull up some of those reports. it is very hard for people to look at the big picture.
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01-13-2008, 03:15 PM
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the commercial guys get a limit of 50 fish per day per operation regardless of people in the operation. the season was only 3 days. thats 150 fish per year per operation. 1 charter operation kills more fish than 1 commercial operation easily and there are ALOT more charter operations.
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01-13-2008, 03:47 PM
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here are some reports, older and new
http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1266 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1251 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1273 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1277 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1278 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1278 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1524 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1528 http://www.oregon-inlet.com/journal/...rticle_id=1773 and VA is where they are killen'em right now, check out these reports. http://www.virginiafishing.com/FISHI...yindexlist.htm Last edited by Pier_man0909; 01-13-2008 at 06:26 PM.
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01-15-2008, 07:45 AM
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Here's where I have the issue...they can rape the beach like that, BUT the fish still need to be protected enough to keep the EEZ in effect?
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01-15-2008, 09:07 AM
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My first thought was a net washed on shore and this guy was pulling up on the beach. I don't see how it can be legal if it is...
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01-15-2008, 10:32 AM
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striper slaughter
I fished a lot this year and did not catch 50 stripers. let alone keep 50. this guy in the video is a contractor not a commerical fisherman ,he is the reason a commerical fisherman can't make a living. I 'd like to know what % of the total income comes from fishing should have got the tag # or maybe some one could check.
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