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07-10-2006, 08:51 AM
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Casting Rig - Bite leader / rub leader length
Ok - I know rub leaders have been discussed to some degree in that the idea is you want the longest rub leader you can cast....
What about the bite leader though? I'm starting to make some rigs up - and have some malin leaders from 1 to 2+ feet. Wondering if it would be safe to shorten this up a bit to make casting easier - like maybe 3-6 inches? I'd still use about a 4ft lenght of 100lb mono then a 50lb shock leader...  
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07-10-2006, 09:24 AM
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For casting, 4-6 inches should be fine.
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07-10-2006, 09:47 AM
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I use anywhere from 12 to 24 inches of steel. 3-4 feet of rub line. All depends how far down its gullet it goes. The smaller you go with the steel, the more chances for a bite off when it is chomping the bait for its meal. Lotsa variables, and you could certainly still catch em but 3-6" seems shorter than I would be comfortable with. But some people have luck catching em with only mono, no steel at all. Wouldnt hurt to try if ya can cast it alot better when shortened.
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07-10-2006, 09:51 AM
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In SC we couldn't get them to bite any steel. 50 lb mono and circle hooks did the job just fine. It only has to be strong enough to withstand a pinch from the teeth and not the back and fourth during a fight since it should set in the corner of the mouth.
That being said my casting rig will be 10-12" malin since I'm going to use a bigger bait.
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07-10-2006, 10:11 AM
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Ok - sounds like experimentation is in order - I'll makes some short ones and keep the longer ones I already made to try too....since I've never done this before, It will be some trial and error....
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07-10-2006, 10:26 AM
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did you haywire the malin or crimp it? Have you done it before?
I only ask because the first ones I "tied" looked fine until I put about 30 lbs of pressure on them. Haywires pulled and crimps popped. It's a hell of a thing to sit on the beach for 6 hours and finally get a pickup and then bring back only wire. EVERYONE coming to the fling should have an idea of what their leader will hold up to. You will have people helping you land sharks in the wash and you need to be able to tell them how much pressure your rig can stand...you can't do that without testing them if you haven't done it before.
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07-10-2006, 10:36 AM
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I tie onto my deck and then yank away on the cable rigs, I'm 220 and they hold now but I used to crimp too hard and wouldn't get one leg up before you could hear them breaking. On the malin, I fish with 30 lb test so I put the hook in a vise or hook it over something and attach a line of 50 lb test, if that holds and the mono breaks first then I assume I'm good to go.
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07-10-2006, 10:38 AM
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I think the 1/16 is good to 100lbs provided your crimps are correct. Check it to be sure, you don't want a "friend" to leader your shark and pop the leader and lose it in the wash.
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