After that episode I have had passing thoughts about bringing in a pile driver with a couple of 16' 6x6's
but seriously I just had the drag to tight, thought I had loosened it but apparently not.
I didn't think there was that much room inside a 9/0 for 3 yards of sand. what a mess that was to clean, at least I got to clean it and wasn't out buying another one. Thankx again Sam for the quick thinking.